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Posted: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:54 pm

No room for name calling this election; it is a time of healing instead

Dear Editor,

Recent letter writer Alan Viarengo refers to mayoral candidate Dr. Peter Arellano and Council candidate Paul Kloecker as cancers. I suppose in today’s political environment, name calling serves as a substitute for actual political discourse. The irony in Mr. Viarengo’s cancer statement is not lost, given the fact that Dr. Arellano is actually a healer. And, heal we must.

There are many important issues facing the City of Gilroy, and it’s important we confront those issues head on, working together to develop innovative solutions for complicated problems. We need passionate leaders who are willing to lead from a position of inclusiveness, not leaders who seek to divide and conquer through fear.

Our mayoral candidates offer very distinct choices for Gilroy’s future.  I believe Dr. Arellano is the right choice and the only candidate who is uniquely qualified to represent all Gilroy constituents. Furthermore, Dr. Arellano is committed to partnering with our local School Board to ensure that our children receive the best possible education. He understands the role education plays in creating a vibrant economic base and in providing opportunities for our citizens to climb the economic ladder.

Let’s all work together to create a better Gilroy by electing Dr. Peter Arellano for Mayor.

Tony Rangel, Gilroy

‘Cancer’ too harsh of a word to describe pair of hardworking candidates

Dear Editor,

I have just read the vitriol that Alan Viarengo wrote in Friday’s (Sept. 7, 2012) Dispatch. My first thought was “here we go again; The Tea Party “Patriots” are at it again” But this time I may be mistaken with that first thought. As a South County member of the Santa Clara County Democratic Party’s Central Committee, I have the privilege of knowing many residents of both Gilroy and Morgan Hill, and have heard from local Democrats and Republicans alike that this man, (Mr. Viarengo) may just have a mental or emotional problem and just can’t help but spout these kinds of opinions without considering that he may not know what he is talking about.

After all, everyone has a right to express his or her own opinion, and a paper like the Dispatch may feel that it is in the best interest of its readers in printing it. That said, I feel that the writer is wrong in his opinion. A person or candidate cannot be a cancer; it is not medically possible. He is using a horrid medical condition to describe these two fine people and he has offended every person who has the condition or who has a loved one with the condition. Cancer is still equated with a long slow suffering and painful death. Shame on you Mr. Viarengo!

I have known the two people that he refers to as a “cancer” for some time. Peter is an honest hardworking Council member, and the new candidate Rebeca Armendáriz is a smart, warm considerate Latina woman who is committed to her city, her community and to the values we all hold dear in South County. We are in desperate need of another woman and Latina role model in Gilroy. She will bring fresh eyes and ideas to the Council. I have never heard of a candidate being appointed to a seat without an election, so Mr. Viarengo, you may want to check your facts.

From what I have learned, the readers of this paper already know about you Mr. Viarengo, (it’s not good) and you have given me a great opportunity to educate the voters about two great candidates.


Swanee Edwards, Morgan Hill

Why does Obama need Clinton’s help to defeat the Republicans this year?

Dear Editor,

All of the “experts” and pundits claim that Romney and Ryan are unlikeable and unelectable. The polls show Obama leading in the “important swing states.” Is there something missing that we don’t know about? 

The Obama campaign has recruited former President Bill Clinton to join them on the campaign trail. If Obama is likeable and leading in the polls why do they need former President Bill Clinton?


Keith C. De Filippis, San Jose

Local farmers’ market more like a flea market; more produce vendors needed

Dear Editor,

I have lived in Gilroy for three years. I was astonished when I first moved here that Gilroy had no farmers' market given that it has been a “farming” community for a long time. I used to shop regularly at the farmers' market in San Jose in the old Mervyn's parking lot on Blossom Hill Road. It runs year-round, has many vendors and LOTS of customers. I found the Morgan Hill farmers’ market and have been shopping over there in the past years. 

This year I have been to the Gilroy market three times and it's just not providing what a customer wants. 

The days that I was there only two produce vendors were open. That is just not enough diversity. It is more like a flea market than a farmers’ market. 

I hope Gilroy can get more vendors and make it more interesting because then those of us who have given it a try would be willing and able to tell our friends about it and recommend it to them.


Marjorie Apel, Gilroy

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  • Dave McRae posted at 6:21 am on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    Are Kaeini and Viarengo attending the same ultra conservative mass? Who else attends? Where is this held? Anyone got any info?

  • Dave McRae posted at 6:17 am on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    I found another interesting series of e-mails online. David Kaeini, a frequent Dispatch opinion writer claimint to be an ex "mooslim" and now ultra Catholic, asking how the Catholic Church can punich liberal churches.

    If you want to get published in this paper, apparently you have to be part of a radical ultra conservative Catholic, or ex-Catholic.

    Is the ownership of this paper part of that movement? More to follow...

  • WillliamYancey posted at 3:57 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

    WillliamYancey Posts: 61

    Good lord. The man is insane. This isn't legitimate editorializing, these are the rantings of a disturbed man.

  • Dave McRae posted at 1:44 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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  • Dave McRae posted at 6:57 pm on Fri, Sep 14, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    The person the message was intended for assuredly got the reference.

  • fredoliveri posted at 2:49 pm on Fri, Sep 14, 2012.

    fredoliveri Posts: 285

    Dave. no such person as King Nicholas II. There was Czar Nicholas II.

  • Dave McRae posted at 6:55 pm on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    And let "King Nicholas II" know that Rasputin is coming back to collect an old debt.

  • Dave McRae posted at 6:47 pm on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    I would like to address Swanee's letter above. If Mr Viarengo is just "mentally ill", that's not related to his being published by a newspaper over and over and over again.

    There are over 20 letters to the editor to choose form each week, and only a few can make it into publication. So, only letters expressing important points to the publisher and editor make it through the committee that decides what gets published.

    So, Mr Viarengos mental state has nothing to do with his opinions being published over and over and over. These letters are published after a comittee decides what ideas to push on the public.

    The publisher of the Times and Dispatch are supporters of Mr Viarengo and his rhetoric. There can be no other conclusion.

  • Dave McRae posted at 6:31 pm on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

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  • Dave McRae posted at 6:27 pm on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    I recently read, "Basic Economics" by Thomas Sowell. He's a libertarian economist with quite a long resume. His book explains the economic reasons behind a lot of the conservative ideas. It's quite convincing, as I'm sure it was intended to be. Nevertheless, the arguments presented tend to stand on their own merit.

    I actually felt a sense of relief when I read the economic argument for getting rid of FEMA, as it's currently structured and it made sense. Now, of course it's always presented that getting rid of FEMA is like trying to KILL THE POOR! or some other such fear headline!

    No, they believe the rich use FEMA to rebuild million dollar mansions on the coasts where a hurricaine will cause the American taxpayer every 4 years to totally rebuild under the false name of "insurance". Their point is that it's CHEAPER to give EACH FAMILY $227,000 in cash immediately following the disaster, and market forces will get repair personnel to that site faster than any government busses!

    Now, where I'm going with this, is that while I may or may not agree that will be the outcome, it's clear that what I was lead to believe the motives were by the "other" side. The liberal argument first attempts to ridicule these proposals as some kind of attack on the helpless victims. It's really an attempt to get them MORE money faster so that they can do whatever they like, including NOT rebuild and just move to Gilroy if they like.

    Both sides mislead, and we are all worse off for it.

    So let's stand not only against the violent, misleading rhetoric, but also the subtle, ridiculing kind of rhetoric that also attempts to discredit an argument before it can be honestly presented.

  • WillliamYancey posted at 3:21 pm on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    WillliamYancey Posts: 61

    Dave, I appreciate your outing of people who express sympathy to self-professed Yatzees. But, the fact is, extremist rhetoric has entered mainstream conservatism, and there really is no line anymore. In the mind of the average conservate, like fredoliveri, Obama is a socialist Muslim, even though in reality, he's a center-right, Christian American. That's what the center and the left are up against-a right-wing that thinks Obama is an extremist. I'm not sure how you can deal rationally with that.

  • fredoliveri posted at 2:00 pm on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

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    I did not see the article mentioned in most of the posts attributed to the Dispatch, but from what I have read via these posts I have to agree there is something really rotten going on and I might have to agree with yancey.

  • Dave McRae posted at 1:38 pm on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    I believe a $5000 donation to the Gilroy Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 6390 and a formal, published apology would make up for this insult to the men and women that died fighting that horror called nasism. At this point, that's the best outcome possible.

  • Dave McRae posted at 1:25 pm on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72


    I have read your comments over the months and while I disagree with some of your tactics, I do understand you will stand with me against the rise of these types of ideas.

    I firmly believe that if people became aware of these issues they would stand against it also, regardless of political bend. I would expect Fred Oliveri to join in the fight against this hatered also.

    I bet a lot of people "feel" in their gut that something is wrong here. There is too much anger in these pages compared to other news outlets. The fighting is seemingly encouraged.

    I think it's just a recruiting strategy. I think they are content to quietly build support.

    Let's keep a light on this. Do not lose focus. I'd appreciate any help in flushing this out.

  • Dave McRae posted at 1:18 pm on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    Sedevacantist. Look up that word and become very familiar with it. I was not familiar with this word until I started wondering if Mel Gibson's father was a Nasi. It turns out he's a holocaust denier, and as anti Semetic as they come, but he's technically a Sedevatantist. Most people assume he's a Nasi, and the distinction is subtle to often non existant. A rose by any other name, so to speak.

    When I won the election in 2002, I was e-mailed by Alan Viarengo who asked me a series of questions about my postiitions, and I knew he was a teacher, and we discussed issues.

    He eventually offered to me that he was kicked out of St Mary's church for being, "too Catholic" because he was totally against Vatican II, and thought all services should be in Latin and was a total HARD LINE on these issues. It meant very little to me at the time. I think I said someting like, "Oh."

    Jump forward to 2006 and these articles come out following a lot of race baiting articles. A general trend that was becoming obvious to me. The trend seemed to be to get the races fighting against each other and to cause strife and hate to build. You know how that works if you've read the coverage of the Flag T-shirt issue. Every chance to throw gas on that fire was used.

    I started thinking about Nasi's, and googled "gilroy nasi's" and a picture came up of two youths in a field with home made ax type weapons and swaztika's tattooed on their arms. So, I concluded Gilroy DID have nasi's. Real ones.

    When I learned about Sedevacantism, and suddenly remembered the conversation with Viarengo, the fact that he's CONSTANTLY published in the Dispatch in spite of nearly useless opinions that no one can second, I began to believe there may be more at work here.

    So, what I know at this point: Gilroy Dispatch Management and Ownership approved f a pro Nasi SERIES of articles. Gilroy Dispatch Management frequently publishes the opinions of a local Sedevacantist, which is basically a off shoot of the Nasi party.

    The DIspatch and Times have a obvious history of pitting races against each other in news stories and enflaming community passions.

    Charles Manson (he with the swaztica right on his FACE) had a plan to start a huge race war which would lead to the rise of White Power.

    Let's keep a light on this. This is America. We defeated that Nasi scum once, and we can do it again if it tries to rise up.

    Keep your eyes open. ASK HARD QUESTIONS!!!

  • WillliamYancey posted at 11:04 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    WillliamYancey Posts: 61

    Good lord... that is mind-blowing, if true. I mean, really. Was the author totally stupid for saying, "Yatzees aren't so bad!" and the DIspatch just as stupid for publishing it, or are they both sympathetic to Yatzees to begin with? Come to think of it, I'm not sure that the former is any better than the latter. The former makes them enablers, which, honestly, is just as bad as being a sympathizer.

  • Dave McRae posted at 3:36 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    Excerpt from the article,

    "I consider myself fortunate to have had my conversations with Tim and Nigel.

    Before talking to them, I was guilty of the very thing I accused Nasis of: ignorance. I thought I had a solid grasp on what Nasis believed. I thought there was absolutely no way I would ever find anything to agree with a Nasi about.

    I believed the stereotypes. I discovered I was wrong. Now, I can say that although I don't agree with Nasis or members of the NSM, I think they have some good ideas for our health care system and interesting thoughts on how we should care for the environment. I hope that you can now say something similar."

  • Dave McRae posted at 3:33 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

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    Bahahahahaha guess who's applauding?!!!!

  • Dave McRae posted at 3:31 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    Posted: Friday, September 1, 2006 12:00 am


    Dear Editor,

    I am not surprised to learn that Nasi people live in South County. But I am disappointed that you gave them your valuable time and space to promote their hateful views. The previous article that led Reporter Kelly Savio to write this one, was disappointing enough. I would like to urge you not to publish the second segment of Ms. Savio's article.

    Why would you give the Nasi party a platform to further their hateful values by publishing their website?

    Rose Hernandez, Morgan Hill

  • Dave McRae posted at 3:28 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    The original two articles were so embarassing to the Dispatch that they have been hidden. But these letter to the editor clearly point out what went down. And, they provide dates.

    The Gilroy Museum used to keep every Dispatch edition in their archives. I'm just sayin'...

    Drive down to Gilroy and look through the August 2006 archives...

  • Dave McRae posted at 3:25 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    Posted: Saturday, September 9, 2006 12:00 am


    Dear Editor,

    This letter is in response to Angela Munson's letter printed in the Dispatch on Thursday Aug. 31. While understanding her outrage at the group, that outrage shouldn't be aimed at the Dispatch or the writer of the article. She was appalled? It was a newspaper article, nothing more – a story to provide information and draw your own conclusions just like most stories in newspapers. Also, if something appalls someone that much, don't read it. Like Howard Stern on the radio, don't complain, change the channel.

    While she may have disagreed with the article, the Dispatch has an obligation to present stories that represent the other side. That's the freedom of the press and a good newspaper. Also, as distasteful as it may be, the Nasi's as a group have a right to exist like any other group in this great country. I don't agree with them, I don't support them. But being in America is the reason they can be.

    As for writer Kelly Savio, agreeing with some of the Nasi's stances. Well, I can tell you that they're many groups I disagree with in general. But some of those groups may have a few good ideas. So before you write off any group, keep an open mind and listen to what they have to say. Always read and listen with an open mind. We still give the Republicans the benefit of the doubt. Though these days it more doubts than benefit.

    I read this article the way I read all articles – read the information, come to my own conclusion. Just remember, most newspaper articles will be slanted toward the belief's of the newspaper printing the article. In this case, I think the Dispatch was just giving the reader an inside look at a group most people didn't even know existed in this area.

    I wonder before that article was printed, how many people even knew there were Nasi's in the Gilroy area. Also, how many people even know about the existence of other groups in the area that could be worse than the Nasi's?

    Ray Hansell, Gilroy

  • Dave McRae posted at 3:17 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

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    I had to change the spelling to get it to post, sorry. The link included the word nasi so I can't use it.

  • Dave McRae posted at 3:16 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    Posted: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:00 am


    Dear Editor,

    I am appalled at Gilroy Dispatch's article "Conversation with a Nasi" by Kelly Savio, and especially by her disclaimer comment that she found herself "agreeing with some of the Nasi stances."

    I could not believe I was actually reading this in California in 2006!

    According to this article Nasis, are really good people they just hate anyone who is not white and interracial couples should abort their children. According to your article, interracial children are not worthy to live and the Holocaust is grossly exaggerated. Tell that to the millions of Jewish people whose families died during that time!

    With this attitude/writing by the local newspaper it is no wonder the interracial couple Kelly refers to in her article moved from Gilroy. I would not be surprised if after publishing this article many more Nasis will move to Gilroy.

    Obviously they are welcome here, since they are such nice and well-educated people. Is this what the article hoped to achieve?

    How does Kelly think the Nasi's got started in Germany?

    People in Germany back then did think, too, that they were just "the nice neighbor next door", who would help everyone get a job and improve the living condition. That they did not lot like Jewish people or other races was just a "minor side effect".

    Please read your history books and think before you publish irresponsible articles!

    Angela Munson, Gilroy

    The Golden Quill is awarded occasionally for a well-written letter.

  • WillliamYancey posted at 8:22 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    WillliamYancey Posts: 61

    Heh, Ted Turner must have gotten his foot in the door early there.

  • fredoliveri posted at 6:48 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

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    When I first started travelling to Russia the only news channels were the local Russian stations and CNN for news outside Russia. All you got from the Russian stations were sketches of news from around the world. As for Fox, I like Kelly and O'Reilly. CNN I like A/C. MSNBC, not so much. I stayed with Russian families. I can verify that CNN was watched along with the soap opera, Santa Barbara. As for Time, during the primary elections and debates, Obama was on the cover so often and Hillary out, it was kind of joke. Time was and still is no fan of GW Bush. Joe Klien stall bashes him.

  • WillliamYancey posted at 4:58 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    WillliamYancey Posts: 61

    You have links to the pro-"Yatzee" articles, Dave?

  • Dave McRae posted at 4:47 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    To clarifty, it was on the agenda. The vote was taken in open session. Perfectly open and legal. We just didn't make any speeches. We voted, moved on, and the media was totally clueless. They probably wrote some criticism of Dr Owens or Mr Rosso or Mr Kraemer and were so busy attacking political enemies that they didn't even cover or research the REAL STORY RIGHT THERE ON THE AGENDA!!!!

    The Parade funds theft also broke in the comments section of the Dispatch. The Comments section.

    Yes, some citizens are trying to get the truth out through back channels. The local editors can't man the post 24/7 so you can get the news out quickly late at night and on week ends before they delete the post.

    And I've never found out who was behing the "Nasi's are good people and we should vote for them" stories that appeared suddenly in the Gilroy Dispatch in the mid 2000's. One day I WILL find out who authorized those stories and I WILL publish that somehow.

    Yeah neo-nasi's in the media, there's a story that no one is even looking into! But who publishes a PRO nasi series of stories? WHO DOES THAT???!!!! The Dispatch. That's who. Now, tell us why and who, that's all I ask.

    Oh and to get this past censors you have to pronounce nasi like Yatzee.

  • Dave McRae posted at 4:32 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    I often make the 6 hour drive from LA to Gilroy. During this boring drive, I may switch radio frequencies to try and find a sports game or something interesting to listen to. I often tune into right wing radio going through the central valley because it's the only good signal for hours.

    Plus, it's so hilariouosly idiotic it passes the time as the worlds funniest comedy show! I mean, I listen to the calls on these shows and I know 70% of them are coming from the front office of the radio station just to drum up a show! And the poor shows with bad producers who don't screen calls correctly like the Sussman show where the 5th caller will totally embarass the host and make into a stammering idiot, well, it's hard to buy that kind of entertainment!

    Have I ever tuned into one of these shows at any other time in my life than a long boring drive through the desert? Nope. Stricklty used for personal amusement. Whatever they prattle on about, it just is fluff that makes me laugh! It doesn't affect my opinion about anything. I treat it like a 5 year old telling me how to make love to a woman. It just amuses me that they even try.

    I held elected office for 4 years (2002-2006) and I don't believe there has ever been a really accurate story in amy media ever. I don't trust any media. None. It's ALL distortions and lies. If you're reading it or seeing it, it's a distortion and a lie chosen to make you feel a certain way about things, not to inform you in any way!

    I'd go to a 6 hour meeting, and then read the article about the meeting and they'd be off about some weird issue that wasn't the focus of the meeting, leave out all the critical debates so that they could paint certain officials in bad light, and just a lot of garbage.

    I will tell you that there was one time when we missed a deadline on a critical legal issue and didn't even know we had to take a certain action by a certain date. The lack of this action meant we could be sued and lose 4-5 million dollars. We quietly took the legally required action, never discussed it openly, and none of the peoople that could have sued for their millions back ever even knew.

    Yeah, the media's your friend. Bahahahahahahahahaha!

    Did you know two GUSD trustees committed a Brown Act Violation with the editor of the Gilroy Dispatch? An illegal secret meeting? What the media didn't report it? Dear god! How can that be? Could it be because one was related to the editor and one was a former colunist for the Dispatch? Wow.

    No, criticisime me for listening to a right wing radio show, while claiming you know the "real" media outlets to get your news just tells me you're getting a lot of lovemaking advice from 5 year olds.

    All media is simply propoganda. No one ever wants you to know the truth.

  • WillliamYancey posted at 4:09 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    WillliamYancey Posts: 61

    Wait, you were wondering earlier why anyone would watch left-wing or right-wing news. So why would you watch Fox or MSNBC? Not really understanding your quip about CNN being popular in Russia (actually, not true, I can guess what you're driving at, but I'd like to hear you explain it). As for Time, thanks but no thanks. I read Time for a couple years after 9/11. Apart from their cheerleading for the invasion of Iraq and regurgitating administration talking points and lies, theirs in some of the most lacking, vapid, banal "journalism" I've ever encountered.

  • fredoliveri posted at 3:36 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

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    yancey, if you want a left wing rag, just subscribe to Time. I have been a subscriber for as long as I remember. I like the magazine even with the love affair with the left. Recent articles on Gun Control by Fareed Zakaria, Deficit talk, with Joe Klein, a real liberal, and a great article by Rana Foroohar on Global economics. I used to get the news from CNN, especially when travelling overseas. Number one news channel in Russia. Now, I watch an hour of Megyn Kelley at 11:00 AM and O'Reilly in the evening. Cross tune into CNN. We do watch the local news on KRON. Have from time to time such as during the RNC and DNC jump around from CNN, to Fox, to MSNBC.

  • WillliamYancey posted at 1:35 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

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    Unfortunately, mhmom, I actually know Swanee, and that is not the case.

    fred, I would love to know exactly which magazines you read and which TV shows you watch.

  • fredoliveri posted at 1:13 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

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    I prefer listening to an open discussion, reading magazines with differing opinions, watching TV that presents the news, not someones view of the news. As an example, I stay away from Rush, always a right wing slant, I stay away from MSNBC, always a left wing slant.. You can bet that any article from LIsa Pampuch is left, way left. Yes, I do read them and feel obligated to comment when she really stretches. My post is "who listens to right wing or left wing or TV?" My guess is those who cannot think for themselves but do have a point of view and the discussion might center around their own personal point of view.

  • morganhillmom posted at 12:45 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

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    Trust me, William, Ms. Edwards knows nasty and vitriolic QUITE well.

  • morganhillmom posted at 12:44 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

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    What does any of this have to do with Morgan Hill? I mean, I thought this was the Morgan Hill Times? There is plenty of problems and letters to the editor about Morgan Hill concerns, why don't we hear about it more?

  • WillliamYancey posted at 12:02 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    WillliamYancey Posts: 61

    Heck, who reads books, or talks to other people, or gets an education? I have to wonder who does that.

  • WillliamYancey posted at 12:00 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    WillliamYancey Posts: 61

    Or who reads newspapers or goes on blogs or subscribes to magazines? Who does that sort of weirdness?

  • fredoliveri posted at 9:42 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    fredoliveri Posts: 285

    I have to wonder who tunes into right wing and left wing radio, or for that matter TV?

  • WillliamYancey posted at 9:01 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2012.

    WillliamYancey Posts: 61

    My favorite was listening to Michael Weiner tell a black caller he was a sub-human and an animal, and to take his machete and go back to the jungle.

  • Dave McRae posted at 5:18 pm on Tue, Sep 11, 2012.

    Dave McRae Posts: 72

    My favorite moment on right wing radio came while I was driving back to Gilroy and caught Brian Sussman on 560 ranting about how we need to make America back to a Christian nation, etc, and a caller pointed out that he was Jewish and he started hemming and hawing...he's not Hannity yet. He's got a few years in the minor leagues before he's groomed for prime time. Funny stuff though.

  • WillliamYancey posted at 10:29 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2012.

    WillliamYancey Posts: 61

    Swanee is a good woman, but naive about how nasty conservatives and teabaggers are. I mean, all they know is hate and vitriol. Turn on right-wing radio sometime. It's a 24/7 hate-fest. It really is all that they know. It's so bad that they can't recognize it for what it is. To them, it's normal, legitimate discourse. The only time they can recognize that sort of language for what it is, is what it's directed at them. Then suddenly they start sniffling about "name-calling" and lack of civility. The next day, they're back to their violent, racist, vitriolic ways. I do think Swanee is right about one thing: it's iindicative of some sort of emotional or mental dysfunction.

  • fredoliveri posted at 10:00 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2012.

    fredoliveri Posts: 285

    This is funny. The headline is "No room for name calling this election" and pretty much down the line name calling. Ms Edwards letter treats the Tea Party as some kind of plague on mankind, informs us that Viarengo is some kind of mental case, and then let's us know we need a Latina women and a role model at that. Is that the primary criteria to serve on the City Council? I concede Viarengo's statements are way over the top. This election year will be full of statements attempting to vilify a candidate or Prop 32 or other Props that one side or the other deems horrific. I do notice the left likes to go after the conservative point of view. Take a look at the Pampuch article this week.

  • Dave McRae posted at 9:03 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2012.

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    Viarengo is connected to the Dispatch through back channels. He's part of their little "thing". He represents their viewpoint. Seriously.

    But he's so wacky and nutty and completely ridiculous that it's easy to deny any claim that he represents any viewpoint.

    Yet, they publish him 3-4 times a month.

    Because he says what they want to say, but need some distance from such a statement. He serves a purpose. He does what he's told. He's their minor attack dog.

    When you read Viarengo, you're reading Mark Derry. His decision puts that letter into the paper. He chooses to do so because he wants that viewpoint out there as serious debate.