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Anti-Obama display includes noose

Rope hanging around chair with watermelons on fence of Foothill Avenue home draws controversy

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Posted: Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:00 pm

The appearance of an apparently racist political display at an east Morgan Hill residence depicting watermelons and a noose in criticism of President Barack Obama has inspired widespread Internet commentary accusing its owner of hatred, even if it hasn’t caught the attention of immediate neighbors.

Morgan Hill isn’t the only place in the South Valley where tensions seem to be on conspicuous display as the Nov. 6 election approaches. The San Benito County Republican Party reported last week that a vandal and thief compromised at least two political signs supporting Mitt Romney for president.

The political display in Morgan Hill, on Foothill Avenue southeast of Tennant Avenue, depicts an empty chair standing on a plywood platform nailed to the top of a white fence. On the chair are two watermelons, with a yellow rope tied at one end in the shape of a noose hanging down.

In front of the chair, facing it and nailed to a post is a clear piece of glass or plastic with a hand-written message saying, “Go back to Kenya you idiot.”

A printed political sign declaring support for Republican candidate Mitt Romney in the upcoming presidential election is also affixed to the top of the fence, a few yards down from the chair display.

Behind the fence, which is on the east side of Foothill Avenue  is a small garden with fruits and vegetables growing, with a home, vehicles and farm equipment set back from the road. A closed iron gate blocked the driveway Tuesday.

Numerous attempts to contact the resident or producer of the display have gone unanswered.

Some residents have called the display racist and embarrassing. Morgan Hill resident Susan Shirley posted a photo to her Facebook page Sunday with the following comments:

“Sorry to bum you out on a Sunday, but blatant racism thrives in my beautiful town of Morgan Hill, Ca. Driving down a road between Morgan Hill and San Martin, we spotted some Romney signs, then a chair. Amusing. Then we noticed the watermelons on the chair. Disgusting. Finally we noticed the noose hanging over the side of the chair. Horrifying. Freedom of speech? Absolutely. Freedom for people to share this picture with everyone they know to point out the ominous side of the conservative party-PLEASE.”

A neighbor across the street from the display said she had not even noticed chair when asked her opinion about it Tuesday morning. Observing the props from her barn, where she was feeding her chickens, the neighbor said it was a “mystery” to her what the work means. She said an African-American man lives or used to live at the home where the display was erected.

When told what the message presumably directed at President Barack Obama on the clear piece of plastic facing the chair said, the woman replied, “It’s amazing how ignorant people can be in this information age.”

The neighbor declined to provide her name.

Another neighbor on the east side of Foothill Avenue declined to comment on the political display.

Other neighbors were not home Tuesday or Wednesday.

A spokeswoman from the Santa Clara County Democratic Party, which supports Obama for president, said she was “stunned and shocked” at the display, especially the depiction of an apparent noose.

“Freedom of speech is a basic right but this takes it too far in that I find it threatening to our president,” said Democratic Party spokeswoman Swanee Edwards.

She added that the Democrats do not think the display represents the views of the Republican Party or Romney supporters in general, but it might be the work of a subscriber to the ultra-conservative Tea Party or Patriots groups, some of whose members have recently expressed fear and dislike of the Muslim Cordoba Center mosque project proposed to be built in San Martin.

“I think it’s a sick individual,” Edwards said.

And in San Benito County last week, the GOP chairman reported that two large pro-Romney signs posted with permission on private property had been targeted by opponents.

One of the signs was manipulated with vandalism to read, “Romney Lies.” Party chairman Marvin Jones said the name “Ryan,” referring to Romney’s running mate on the sign, had been painted over with the word “Lies.”

Jones said such vandalism restricts free-speech rights, while the party Wednesday placed the sign outside Sixth Street in Hollister along with a sheet posted on it asking “Who did this?”

Jones surmised that the vandals were referring to last week’s presidential debate, after which both candidates received criticism for the accuracy of their statements.

It was among five signs – he said they were 4-by-8 feet – which the Republicans posted around town last weekend, and Jones said another sign had been stolen.

Interim Hollister Police Chief David Westrick said such crimes occur every election.

“It’s pretty common,” he said. “Obviously, people are passionate about their politics.”

There haven’t been other reports of such election-related theft or vandalism in Hollister. Jones said the Republicans did not report the matter to Hollister police – he contended officers would tell them to file an online report – while Democratic Party Chairman Gregory Rivera could not be reached immediately on the sign matter. As for the stolen sign, Jones said it had been posted at Seventh and Sally streets.

The Hollister Free Lance contributed to this report. Get connected to other locals, give us feedback on stories and tell us about community events at www.morgahillvoices.com.

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73 comments:

  • JonKnapp posted at 7:25 am on Sat, Oct 20, 2012.

    JonKnapp Posts: 15

    If....if....WilliamYancey is posing as Fred, using Fred's picture, and speaking rubbish in Fred's name; then isn't WilliamYancey an "agent provacateur"? Just like I discribed that could be behind this display?

    If WilliamYancey isn't the poser....then we still have firm evidence that such a leftist provacateur exists, and is active, right here on this comment page...

     
  • grose21 posted at 5:41 pm on Wed, Oct 17, 2012.

    grose21 Posts: 4

    To the REAL Fredoliveri - see this website:

    http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/california-right-publicity-law

    It is illegal in California for someone to use your "name, voice, signature,PHOTOGRAPH, and likeness". Mr. Yancey below has definitely done that. My sister is an attorney and would gladly refer you to someone who can help you sue Mr. Yancey.

    I have also taken a screen shot of the other Morgan Hill Times article in which Mr. Yancey posed as you with your likeness for evidence in case he decides to delete it. Let me know if you need it.

     
  • ferdoliveri posted at 9:16 pm on Tue, Oct 16, 2012.

    ferdoliveri Posts: 3

    You cheered this display, hh, just like you cheered Tara Romero's death. You're a sub-human.

     
  • hypocrisyhater posted at 9:47 am on Tue, Oct 16, 2012.

    hypocrisyhater Posts: 234

    "The consensus among the conservatives is either that this display is okay because Bill Maher, or it's faked by an Obama supporter. This is a wonderful town"

    There's the door. Don't let it hit you on the way out. :)

    And take some of your illegal buddies with you when you go.

    Oh...and I condemn this over-the-top display on Foothill.

    It's some rabid conservative with a cry for attention. He and Yancey-Boy probably have a lot in common, as they both seem to be begging for more attention.

     
  • wiillaimyancey posted at 11:08 am on Sun, Oct 14, 2012.

    wiillaimyancey Posts: 12

    In all seriousness, the fact that conservatives' brains (such as they are) always run to the idea that everything that makes them look bad is staged by the opposition, provides some serious insight into their warped thinking.

     
  • wiillaimyancey posted at 11:05 am on Sun, Oct 14, 2012.

    wiillaimyancey Posts: 12

    And the conspiracy train rolls on! Choo-choo!

     
  • JonKnapp posted at 5:53 am on Sun, Oct 14, 2012.

    JonKnapp Posts: 15

    Should ths 'display' ever be shown to be the work of an agent provocateur, then consider the political mileage that can be elicited by this underhanded technique.

    There will always be a degree of cooks and crazies hanging out on the edges of all political communities. We are familiar with them, and can spot them in an instant. This Morgan Hill 'display' is no exception. But, how often do we put ourselves on guard against the very simple manipuation of a counter-agent? It occurs from all sides, but the case of Tawana Brawley comes to mind.

     
  • wiillaimyancey posted at 9:48 am on Sat, Oct 13, 2012.

    wiillaimyancey Posts: 12

    The consensus among the conservatives is either that this display is okay because Bill Maher, or it's faked by an Obama supporter. This is a wonderful town.

     
  • thermopylae posted at 11:00 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    thermopylae Posts: 41

    More often then not these types of stunts are committed by supporter of the candidate in an effort to blame the other side for it.

    The has been the case when the police or others actually find the people who did it.

    Don't take these stunts on face value. There is always more to them than meets the eye.

     
  • wiillaimyancey posted at 8:50 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    wiillaimyancey Posts: 12

    Nice. Reading about a shot fired through the Obama office in Denver while people were working there. Sounds like the work of hh or fredoliveri.

     
  • wiillaimyancey posted at 6:55 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    wiillaimyancey Posts: 12

    Yeah, you've said that before. And every time you've said it, you've come back and responded to everything I say. It's wearing thin, fred.

     
  • fredoliveri posted at 6:40 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    fredoliveri Posts: 285

    yancey, I cannot speak for hh, but I do not care one iota what you think.

     
  • wiillaimyancey posted at 3:43 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    wiillaimyancey Posts: 12

    And fred and hh STILL have yet to condemn this display without attacking someone else. It'll never happen.

     
  • wiillaimyancey posted at 3:41 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    wiillaimyancey Posts: 12

    There has never been any moderation on MH Times websites. Back in the glory days, ct2 would come on and argue that children who commit petty acts of vandalism should have their hands chopped on and their parents should be imprisoned, and all Hispanics should have bomb collars attached to their necks and be sent south of the border, fredoliveri would agree with him and call anyone who disagreed a Marxist and call for their deportation, and various random people would show up and spout of whatever racist garbage they could tangentially link to whichever article they were posting on. If anyone complained, the MH Times staff defended the comments as "free speech."

     
  • Calle posted at 2:27 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Calle Posts: 64

    It must be nut season in Morgan Hill by the looks of this page.

     
  • fredoliveri posted at 12:45 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    fredoliveri Posts: 285

    Ah, yancey posing as me again attempting to gain some credibility for his posts. Me, I have a photo, the yancey fred oliveri does not. He has posted as others in a futile attempt to escape is reputation and the fact, no one likes him. MG, there are no rules other than what you can get away with on the South County version of mediamatters, or the Huffpost. Not really a rag that serves the interest of South County but a liberal support group.

     
  • MG posted at 11:37 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    MG Posts: 1

    Have the above "Rules of Conduct" been suspended by the MHT? Apparently, I didn't get the memo.

     
  • fred oliveri posted at 11:28 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    fred oliveri Posts: 8

    I think William is the best. We had coffee at Pete's the other day and it was glorious!

     
  • fredoliveri posted at 11:10 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    fredoliveri Posts: 285

    Come on yancey. It must occur to you that no one agrees with you and no one likes you. I feel sorry for you and your many identities such as beaverbutt, horatiogalt, and now yancey. Most think of you as excessively homely with no self esteem, no real name and no photo.

     
  • raider13 posted at 11:08 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    raider13 Posts: 23

    [crying]

    This is fun, you have to respond to every post. I am sure you are breathlessly waiting for someone to say something so you can be king of the internet. Enjoy your throne glorious ruler, you are an inspiration for us all.

     
  • hypocrisyhater posted at 11:08 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    hypocrisyhater Posts: 234

    You have serious issues, dude.

    I suggest you don't go off your meds anymore.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 10:39 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    Aaaaaand there's raider13 rushing to hh's defense. That tells us all we need to know.

     
  • raider13 posted at 10:34 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    raider13 Posts: 23

    [crying]

    How is there space up on that cross of yours for all your identities?

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 10:25 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    He also can't decide whether or not I'm white. Sometimes he calls me an illegal, other times I'm a race-traitor.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 10:23 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    hh here, for instance, shortly after Tara Romero was killed, posted a comment about how she got what was coming to her, because obviously she was up to something if she was hanging around the Village Avante, and praising her killers for ridding the town of "another anchor baby." Everyone else thought that was an acceptable comment.

     
  • hypocrisyhater posted at 10:19 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    hypocrisyhater Posts: 234

    You must have really done some stuff back in the day, for your white-guilt to be eating away at you this badly.

    Do you ever wake up in the morning not lamenting the fact that you're white?

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 10:01 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    raider13 has been around for a while, as well, and has never called anyone on their extremism or racism, either. Again, it's because s/he agrees with it. S/he only has a problem with insults when they come from someone they disagree with.

     
  • raider13 posted at 9:53 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    raider13 Posts: 23

    I disagree, you both act like babies.[crying]

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 9:42 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    HA! Welcome to the party, whatithink. The MH Times has been permitting vile racism, calls for violence, and personal invective for years. The only time they practice any sort of moderation is when some like fred throws a tantrum and calls the office, sobbing into the phone that someone is being mean to them. No, they don't care. They tolerate and encourage the sort of talk you'd hear at a Klan rally. And, let's be honest. The only reason you're upset is because of who's saying it, not what's being said. fred engages in the exact sort of garbage that you're complaining about. In fact, he's done so in this very thread. But, that's okay, because you agree with him, right? Heh, yeah. So too with the MH Times. It's all completely arbitrary, and it's a joke.

     
  • whatithink793 posted at 9:22 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    whatithink793 Posts: 20

    MH Times......You should be ashamed and embarrassed. Why even have rules if your going to only selectively enforce them. Here's an idea......why don't you actually ENFORCE your own rules listed above instead of letting people (WilliamYancy) turn these comment boards into their own personal toilet. He threatens, uses obscene, vulgar and lewd language towards anyone who disagrees. Definitely uses a long list of "ism's" to force people into his own self-professed identity's. Why don't you do something about, or just remove your "Rules of Conduct" section listed above because it's obviously a waste of space.

     
  • fredoliveri posted at 8:45 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    fredoliveri Posts: 285

    Nope, just you yancey. No one likes you.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 11:47 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    Be grateful there's only one fredoliveri on Earth. He's a toadying idiot, kissing up to anyone who expresses a conservative point of view, even if those people are sleazy racists, like hypocrisyhater, or sociopaths with violent fantasies, like ct2. The things that he's agreed with are beyond the pale. That's bad enough, but he regularly throws tantrums about how uncivil others are, while he hurls insults at everyone he disagrees. He's like a snot-nosed five year-old throwing a tantrum. He'll lash out and scream at others, then come unglued when anyone has the audacity to him on his behavior.

     
  • syzygy posted at 11:02 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    syzygy Posts: 11

    In regards to the sad display on Foothill: remembering the Civil Rights Movement of the 60's I had hoped when President Obama was elected that out country had finally become enlightened. Unfortunately it was a cue for the racists to crawl out of their sewers.

    In regards to yancy & oliveri [offtopic]

     
  • fredoliveri posted at 10:31 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    fredoliveri Posts: 285

    Just be grateful there are very few williamyanceys in your life. He does not represent mainstream Americans, but the disenfranchised, the bitter folk who blame others, and worse yet, attacks anyone who disagrees with his vilification of others. No one likes him.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 7:16 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    Oh, and now they added the part about vandalized Romney signs in Hollister, as if that's comparable. Let's see, vandalizing signs and calling Romney a liar vs. an overt call to lynch the president. Yeah, those are totally equivalent.

    It's a travesty that Michael Moore has a job, even at a worthless rag like the MH Times. Hey, post more articles about the Gilroy cop who killed his kid by leaving his gun out and block anyone from commenting in order to cover for the police. This is real journalism! Absolutely worthless.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 7:13 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    "An apparently racist display." Yeah, it APPEARS racist, but maybe it's not intended to be.

    *facepalm*

     
  • Calle posted at 6:25 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Calle Posts: 64

    This is just sad.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 4:07 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    Oh yeah, the old "I was taken out of context because you didn't quote my entire post." Nice try.

     
  • grose21 posted at 4:03 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    grose21 Posts: 4

    WilliamYancy, I meant every word I said and I stand by it. You also cut off my sentence when you quoted me. Again, the derogatory term and name callling. I will no longer respond to you because I can not take you seriously. Opinion does not equal facts.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 3:56 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    Nah, you can stick to attacking underage murder victims and the SVIC, hh. That's all you're good at.

     
  • hypocrisyhater posted at 3:54 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    hypocrisyhater Posts: 234

    Hey....you made another fan, Yancey. Congratulations!

    "I could come up with 100 examples of teabaggers engaging in virulently racist rhetoric."

    You want to play a game? You come up with your list of teabaggers engaging in 'virulently racist rhetoric' (didn't your Mom ever teach you the old sticks and stones adage, coincidentally? No?) and I will cobble together a list of all the terrorist attacks perpetrated by radical Islamists. Or...if you prefer...illegal immigrants....pick your poison.

    Who's list do you think will be longer? [smile]

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 3:50 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    And yeah, you did try to make yourself and your fellow teabaggers out to be the victims.

    "Susan Shirley, I ask that you keep your opinion to yourself and look at the facts - not theory. Morgan Hill Times, you should do the same. Shame on you for even putting that comment in your article. It incites hate towards a party who cares about EVERYONE in our country."

    I know you'll claim that's not what you meant, but it is what you said. If what you mean and what you say are two different things, that's your problem, and you should work on fixing that.

     
  • grose21 posted at 3:36 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    grose21 Posts: 4

    WilliamYancy, what is wrong with you? You are so filled with hate. No one but you said conservatives were victims, or even claimed to be. I also noticed that you deleted several of your comments. Perhaps it's because you realized how hate-filled your comments are? Hate begets hate.

    BTW, the term "teabaggers" is a derogatory word for the group, The Tea Party. When one begins to start name calling, it makes it difficult to take that person seriously and also makes them look uneducated.

    I know that no matter what anyone writes, we can not change how someone feels about who they will vote for and their reason why. I understand that. We all have the right to our own beliefs. I also think we have the right to the FACTS and not some skewed view of them.

     
  • 1derguy posted at 3:23 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    1derguy Posts: 71

    Thank you MH Times for bringing this to, not just the passer bys, but everyone.
    Norm Holland would be disgusted with all of you.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 3:19 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    Haha, oh yeah, conservatives are the real victims here.

     
  • grose21 posted at 3:07 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    grose21 Posts: 4

    Oh my gosh. I can't believe what I just read - this type of racisim in Morgan Hill. I am not a fan of Obama. In fact, I will be voting for Romney because I do not think President Obama is leading this country in the right direction. However I am shocked by this blatant display of racism - and here in Morgan Hill! Yes, it is freedom of speech, however that type of display is a veiled threat to our President who was chosen by the American People. This is WRONG.

    It is also wrong of Susan Shirley to insinuate that this an example of the "ominous side of the conservative party". I am part of the conservative party and abhor this type of behavior. It is absolutely uncalled for and we, the conservative party, do not racism to win this election. We will win because our country needs a person who can lead this country, not apologize for it, and someone who is actually successful in governing both Democrats and Republicians to work together for the benefit of the people, as he did in his own state.This was done by a person who has a sick and twisted idea of humor.

    Susan Shirley, I ask that you keep your opinion to yourself and look at the facts - not theory. Morgan Hill Times, you should do the same. Shame on you for even putting that comment in your article. It incites hate towards a party who cares about EVERYONE in our country, no matter if you are black, white, asian, and any other race that I did not mention. It is unfair to place the blame on a group of people when ONE PERSON did this hateful act.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 1:59 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    Similarly with your attacks on Hispanics. You attacked Tara Romero for being around the Village Avante, saying that only gang-bangers hang out there, so she must have been up to no good, then thanked her attackers for getting rid of "another anchor baby."

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 1:51 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    Yeah, you keep pretending you're so reasonable. Except, you don't cite "radical Islamists," you cite the SVIC as some horrible threat, a group whose only "crime" is trying to get a place of worship built in the South Valley. Contrast that with my attacks on conservatives who have called for the president to be murdered. Yes, hh, I know you're dumb enough to think you're exposing some hypocrisy here. Unfortunately, and again, I know you're too dumb to understand this, you're comparing apples and oranges. You attack people who want a place to worship. I attack people who call for the death of the president. It speaks for itself.

     
  • hypocrisyhater posted at 1:41 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    hypocrisyhater Posts: 234

    Not to jump in here like you were talking to me....but I'm going to anyway. :)

    So if I rattle off hundreds of attacks by radical Islamists....what do you say?

    You say: Oh...but you can't paint all those Muslims with the same brush! That's Unamerican!

    Yet....you will sit here and try to paint all conservatives as racists based off one fool putting watermelons on an empty chair.

    Tool.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 12:52 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    *how unfair that is that she chalks this up to a right-winger.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 12:51 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    No, because if you thought it was awful, you would have said, "This is awful," and left it at that. Instead you added some garbage about Mrs. Edwards being a leftie and how unfair that is, as if it makes this display okay. You're sick.

     
  • fredoliveri posted at 12:39 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    fredoliveri Posts: 285

    yancey, slowly so you can understand. Read what I wrote. My first line, please slowly read it is stupid and all the posters agree, not a good thing What about that do you not understand? I do recognize you have some comprehension issues, but please read my posts and others. But I will repeat. Slowly, it was and is a horrific act to display such racists and stupid sign like this dummy did.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 12:15 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    I mean, who can argue with that? "A display that calls for the president to be lynched is okay because Bill Maher." Unassailable.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 12:07 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    So, according to fred, this display is okay because Bill Maher.

    This man is a genius.

     
  • fredoliveri posted at 12:03 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    fredoliveri Posts: 285

    Got to love it. Why paint anyone who comes up with something as stupid as the watermelon and rope as members of a select group like the Tea Party or the Patriots. Then we can select Bill Maher or Ed Shultz as representing the Democratic party or maybe even worse, we can use williamyancey as representing the same party. By the way, have you seen what happened to the actress Stacey Dash when she stated she was supporting Romney. Are those idiots representing the values of the Democratic party.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 11:34 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    I expect that hh defended Jules Manson's comments about killing Obama and his children, as well. He's definitely the type who'd get his rocks off to that sort of thing.

     
  • hypocrisyhater posted at 11:18 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    hypocrisyhater Posts: 234

    By the way....(Before Yancy-Boy gets his panties in a wad).....I condemn this 'display'

     
  • hypocrisyhater posted at 11:16 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    hypocrisyhater Posts: 234

    "When I mentioned the "Patriots" MAY be behind this; well if it walks like a duck...."

    That's what I say about Islamists every time somebody blows themselves up in a crowd of civilians.

    I get called a rac1st for it (even though Islam isn't a race)

    So....what do you have against patriotic white people Swanee?

     
  • Swanee posted at 10:28 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Swanee Posts: 7

    Fred, William, & whatithink,

    Thank you for the comments regarding the display on Foothill Ave. I think that we all agree that this is a not so pretty racist commentary there on Foothill. When I mentioned the "Patriots" MAY be behind this; well if it walks like a duck....I do not dislike or "hate" and group or individuals, I just really dislike the message and the methods. Yes we have Freedom of speech and I would defend any group or individual that was involved in this, in order to preserve that freedom. BUT I don't have to like or approve of what was done here. I do represent the Democratic Party and the values that we as a political organization hold dear. I think the is nothing wrong in speculating about who may have done this horrible display. If nothing else this display has done one very positive thing: we are all at the table discussing, how, why and when, and we are talking about a subject that has no place in our Society: Racisim!

     
  • fred oliveri posted at 8:52 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    fred oliveri Posts: 8

    Smartest post this site has seen to-date. Thank you think73!

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 7:22 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    You're cute with your false equivalence, whatithink793. Thanks for participating.

     
  • whatithink793 posted at 7:11 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    whatithink793 Posts: 20

    And way to go both William and Fred for once again taking a story, twisting it and then perverting it so that it is once again about your own personal agendas.

    Yes this display stinks of racism and hate, but it is protected under Freedom of Speech/Expression. Just like Liberals bashing Conservatives and Conservatives bashing Liberals. Circular and pathetic.

    Bottom line is both of you are oddly correct.......your both idiots!!

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 5:07 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

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    Clever tactic though. Deny that anyone ever said those things, then when proven a liar, pretend they're no big deal. Good job, freddie.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 5:01 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

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    And again, you can't even just denounce these things without attacking someone else. And the reason is, you're sympathetic to these people. They put an R next to their names, so no matter what they say, you're okay with it.

    Try it. Try saying, "What these people said has no place in politics."

     
  • fredoliveri posted at 4:54 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

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    We all know there are idiots out there like the dummy that has the noose and watermelons. Searching out more idiots shows you have a command at finding like minded souls on the right.. I could start by leading off with Maher,throwing in Ed, then going to Letterman, but it would be over your intellect.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 3:59 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

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    Okay, fred.

    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-12-19/news/30535938_1_facebook-profile-tea-party-president-obama

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/10/loy-mauch-arkansas-slavery.html

    http://thegrio.com/2012/10/08/arkansas-republican-jon-hubbard-slavery-was-a-blessing-in-disguise-for-african-americans/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2214020/Republican-state-rep-Jon-Hubbarb-calls-slavery-blessing-Charlie-Fuqua-advocates-deporting-Muslims-books.html

    http://bossip.com/659625/ann-coulter-backs-stacey-dash-and-says-the-worst-thing-that-was-done-to-black-people-since-slavery-was-the-great-society-programs-video69691/

    You shouldn't deny things that really happened. It makes you look really stupid which is easily done in your case. I know of no teabaggers who have repudiated these comments (or "refudiated," as you hero Sarah Palin would say). You should be ashamed, but that won't happen.

     
  • fredoliveri posted at 3:37 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

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    Why post something this idiotic and so untrue? It makes you look really stupid which is easily done in your case. I know of no one who has any agreement with the scenario you posted. You should be ashamed, but that won't happen.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 1:58 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    Yes, why would anyone think it might be a teabagger? I mean, it's not like the teabaggers field candidates who call post on their facebook pages "assassinate the f----n n----- and his monkey children." Or elect people who think slavery was good for blacks. Or claim that Great Society programs were worse for blacks than Jim Crow and the KKK.

    Oh wait, they do all those things.

     
  • fredoliveri posted at 1:46 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    fredoliveri Posts: 285

    yancey, it was an observation. Kind of like blaming the GOP for the Libya attack because of cutbacks in funding. Why speculate that the person is a member of a group Ms. Edwards does not like? Why stir up that pot? Call it what it is, not try to demonize another group.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 1:29 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    Nice. fred can't just denounce this blatantly racist display without attacking someone else.

     
  • fredoliveri posted at 1:16 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

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    It is horrible and you have to wonder why anyone would do something this radical and dumb. Then our left leaning Ms Edwards subscribes this to the Tea Party or Patriots group instead of checking it out first.

     
  • WilllaimYancy posted at 12:27 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    WilllaimYancy Posts: 69

    "Freedom of speech is a basic right." Sure, but overt calls for murder are not, and never have been, considered protected speech.

    That said, this doesn't surprise me in the least.

     
  • bellagirl posted at 11:57 am on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

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    somehow, I'm not surprised - Morgan Hill is a "mini bible belt" and there's lots of conservatives here. The majority is white, with hispanic in second and asian 3rd, black 4th. Sometimes, I feel that we are in the South and isolated from the diverse bay area.

     
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